View entire discussion (4 comments) 75-T81040 - TAMIYA X-20A THINNER (250ML) Tamiya X-20A acrylic thinner is the perfect choice to thin Tamiya acrylic paint when spraying throug.. (yes, i am one of the 7 people who are not complaining about the Aztek!) i got them to stock it at my LHS. AB-AS-186 Airbrushing Kit With Evolution 2 in 1 Airbrush. You can speed up curing w a blow dryer set to low. Thank you for everyones advice I'm going to buy a little Tamiya Morris Mini 1/24 scale as a practice dummy. I really don't like the textured finish that thick paints can make but that's just me. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. I fill the paint cup about 2/3 of the way up. i use Tamiya paints a lot too, and i have to agree w/ Merlin - i gotta thin 'em! First off to the forum! With their lacquer thinner, I start at 1.5:1 thinner to paint and thin to taste. In my experience enamel colors are much better because they dry slower. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. Continue to add water or thinner a drop at a … You'll love it. I've had really great results using alcohol as an acrylic thinner for paints from Tamiya, Gunze Sangyo (Aqueous/Mr.Hobby), Vallejo, Italeri, and Akan (don't try this with Testors Acryl, it took some time to clean the resulting goo from my airbrush). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Read this, it'll be the only thing you need to handbrush Tamiya acrylics, This is pretty popular guide for painting Tamiya acrylics. I put about 3-4 drops of liquitex "flow-aid" in it, which you can get at Michael's or an art supply store. I tend to start at 50/50 ratio and often thin further than that. Spray at a PSI of 13–18 (18 being what MiG Ammo recommends and on the high end)and thin to a ratio of 6/4 (Paint/Thinner) and see how that does. Our community is FREE to join. Iso alcohol works as well, and is what Tamiya bottles for use with their acrylic. For tamiya acrylics, I put the paint in the airbrush paint cup and then simply eyeball how much thinner I need (usually around 30%). On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2. Its ok to mix brands. 1-1 is not a bad start. I thinned the Tamiya NATO green paint in a 1:1 paint / thinner ratio, set the air pressure to about 20 psi, closed my eyes and pressed the button! What paint/thinner ratio do you use? I buy big bags of plastic pipettes and use those to move paint and thinner from their original containers to the airbrush cup or jar. (base coat) I heard 3 layers are required and it should be less then paint 1 / thinner 1 ratio. Tamiya acrylic and thinner mix ratio. Would you recommend it? The subreddit dedicated to the hobby of plastic model kit building and painting. Use an old, cheap brush to mix the two. Paint retarder might also be useful (already included in the Mr.Color Leveling thinner). if it flows very slow then it's still to thick. At 9:1 you can start doing filters, fading and shading. I know its noob question but does anyone have any good recommendation for thinning tamiya acrylic paint with X20a Thinner to paint-brush plastic models ? For camouflage painting I reduce the pressure to about 8 to 10 psi, increase the thinning to approximately 1:1, and spray about ½" from the model's surface. 1/700 are small enough that you can get away with it, but Tamiya acrylics are notoriously hard to brush. The two aren't suited, enamels are oil based, acrylics are not. I use various paints depending on the shades I need. you want to thin to the consistency of milk. Tamiya acrylics are not really suited for brushing. It's far cheaper than brand name acrylic thinners. What is the proper thinning ratio for airbrushing? Mr Color Leveling Thinner is best, it contains a retarder in the Thinner but can be a bit hot to underlying layers of paint. anywhere from 3:1 to 1:1 (paint:thinner) depending on the color. For brush painting you actually want a thicker texture and probably should not dilute the paint at all. watch it drip along the side. I need to know what the ratio of paint to thinner is when airbrushing as I have asked many different companies, shops etc and they all say different ratios and percentages. They are closer to fast drying lacquers than other acrylics (e.g. Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is 2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : … For different effects, i.e. This combination performed in much the same way as Test 1. Tamiya is a lacquer based acrylic, so it makes sense to use a lacquer thinner. i use Tamiya thinner from the 250 ml bottle. You don’t want to mess up an expensive brush mixing ( see my brush recommendations here ). In between steps of one of my projects i decided id make a video to show the alternative i found to using the tamiya paint thinner. Take a fresh jar of paint, add 0.5 ml of retarder, then add thinner to a glass mold line you can see inside the neck of the jar. Description Tamiya Paint Retarder will make acrylic paint dry slower, enabling a smoother finish whether you airbrush Tamiya Acrylic paint or brush it onto a model. Can I paint with lacquer spray over a model coated with acrylic or enamel paint? Testors Acrylic paints hand paint fairly well but have poor adhesion (there is a big thread going on now on Hyperscale about their overall poor quality). The Liqitex flow aid I have says on the bottle to cut it 20-1 with water. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the modelmakers community. I use about 20 PSI and it comes out just fine. Tamiya airbrushes very well using both alcohol and Mr Color Levelling thinner but it's lacquer based, generally I stick with isopropyl alcohol. To participate you must either login or register for an account. I use a Badger 150 bottom feed airbrush. Your email has been successfully added to the list. For best results Tamiya acrylic paint should be thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinners to a ratio of approximately 1:1, and airbrushed at the lowest possible air pressure setting that gives proper paint atomisation and coverage. Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according to weather conditions. Even after a good cleaning. Here's how I do it. You also want to add some Tamiya Retarder. Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is 2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : thinner). The first thing you notice about this paint is that is goes on very much like the enamels I was used to, without the smell! Based on your photos, it seems like you are getting a reduction in splatter on your 60/40 and 70/30 mixes. I'm using the Paasche H, single action rig that my wife bought me for Christmas a couple years ago. It slows the drying time and allows the paint to self level before it dries, eliminating brush strokes. "How To Thin Acrylic Paint For Airbrush" is the question that all modelers are curious about. I thought I would give this combination a try as you will find Tamiya thinner in most model shops and in much larger containers than Xtracrylix thinner. 1-1 is not a bad start. This is from Tamiya's website, but can be taken with a pinch of salt as most people will use more thinners; Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according to weather conditions. And much more! Typically I’d thin Tamiya acrylics with the purpose made Tamiya acrylic thinner X20-A to a ratio of around one part paint to one part thinner (1:1), and airbrush the paint at around 18 psi. I’ve not used AK interactive paints so I’m not familiar with their peculiarities. Use "acrylic" thinner (Tamiya acrylics aren't true acrylics so they aren't thinable with water) like Tamiya X-20A or just IPA or lacquer thinner like Tamiya Lacquer thinner or Mr.Color Levelling Thinner (keep in mind that lacquers will be smelly though). you want it thin but not waster thin. for a bottle of paint how much thinner should I use? hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. Take a fresh jar of paint, add 0.5 ml of retarder, then add thinner to a glass mold line you can see inside the neck of the jar. I just ordered some Tamiya acrylics for my next model along with tamiya thinner. It will really depend on what you're trying to accomplish. Stir well, use a wide brush and try to not drag the brush over existing paint until the paint has fully cured, about 4 hours. Thin them with cheap everyday isopropyl alcohol that can be bought for peanuts. Seems like that was just a typo. Be very careful not to put too much pressure on the brush as it could strip the underlying layers. Thank you for signing up! It helps to lessen the chance of painting a grainy surface on your model. Temperature and humidity will play a role in things. I'm getting the Steenbeck AB-AS-186 Airbrushing Kit With Evolution 2 in 1 Airbrush. Rough guidelines of thinning ratio is2:1-3:1 ( Tamiya Acrylic paint : thinner). Personally, when it comes to choosing whether to thin X-22 with Mr Color Leveling thinner or Tamiya lacquer thinner, I tend to pick whichever bottle is … Just to let you know I'm getting the Harder and Sttenbeck Evolution Silverline 2 in 1 airbrush instead of just the Evolution 2 in 1. Swap tips and techniques, show your latest builds/WIPs, post kit reviews and discuss the latest kits! Please do not apply a lacquer overcoat, as it could As a rule, I tend to use the paint thinner produced by the same company that produced the paint being used. Tamiya paints are excellent when it comes to high thinner:paint ratios and being able to spray at a low psi. What ratio do you usually use. I have found that a 2 parts Tamiya paint to 1 part Tamiya X20A Thinner worked best at about 16-20 psi. airbrushing and thinning is a personel thing ,,, how far from the model are you spraying ,,, what color ,, how thin ,, what pressure ,,what needle,, how far back are you pulling the trigger ..there are so many variables, you can use the guidelines but in the end you will have to learn what works,,, it's been said a million times but practice,,, will reveal the best answer. Is this correct? I'm also buying some books which are affiliated with this site on www.amazon.co.uk to try and guide me on my way. If anything you would want it to be slightly thicker. Read this, it'll be the only thing you need to handbrush Tamiya acrylics. I put regular rubbing alcohol in it (70% isoprophyl). We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. This is pretty popular guide for painting Tamiya acrylics. Would you recommend it. Tamiya paints are poor for brush painting, but they airbrush beautifully. Recently I experimented with Tamiya's Lacquer Thinner, item # 87077. But usually 1.5 or 2:1 for standard coverage. The reality is that a thinning ratio of Tamiya lacquers of 3:1 will probably be thicker than milk, but this is ok. We’re starting with a low amount of thinners and working up to test what works for your airbrush setup and airbrushing environment. $40+ shipping. My main targets are to airbrush my 2 new F1 cars both 1/12 scale and Tamiya: some will require more thinning then others because the consistency from bottle to bottle won't always be the same. The reason there is differing opinion is because there are a few factors that need to be considered when thinning - different airbrushes with different needle/nozzle combinations, environmental factors (heat, humidity) & user "style" all have an effect on what the best thinning ratio for each airbrusher is. i am running an Aztek and 20 psi. Finish too wet or thin - decrease the % of thinners. This is from Tamiya's website, but can be taken with a pinch of salt as most people will use more thinners; Proper ratio for paint thickness differs according toweather conditions. I read another forum after googling my question where someone mentioned that Tamiya paint thinner and Iwata paints don't mix because they get clogged in the nozzle of the brush, or the different chemical compounds, or something to that affect. The thing is, Tamiya acrylics aren't true acrylics. Its indeed the "Acrylic X-20A Thinner" not the "Enamel" one. Then try 7/3 if that not ideal. Does anyone want to share their recipe for thinner to paint ratio for Tamiya gloss paints? I use Thayer and Chandler airbrushes, and for general coverage I usually start with a 3:1 ratio (3 parts paint to 1 part thinner), I spray at around 15 psi, and about 3 - 4" from the model's surface. also when starting out ,,, using the manufactures thinner is a big help...trying out alternate methods and products in the midst of learning to airbrush is not the best advice.you will find what works best for you as you progress. I usually thin my Tamiya paints with 91% iso alcohol but have good results with Tamiya acrylic and lacquer thinners as well as Mr Leveling Thinner. It slows the drying time and allows the paint to self level before it dries, eliminating brush strokes. Do you add the flow aid straight from the bottle? It should look about the consistency of milk. Put a few drops of paint into the cup. And they strip easily with subsequent layers of paint. most will use water thin for detailed work. Your best bet would be to start at 50/50 & see how you get on; Paint too dry or trouble getting good atomization - increase the % of thinners. On the Bench: Trumperter Tsesarevich on deck Glencoe USS Oregon. Add 2-3 drops of water or thinner to the paint. I always spray with tamiya acrylic paint and thinner using the ratio 2 parts paint for 1 part thinner. Tamiya acrylics are already very thin, so thinning them further is not a good idea for brushing. Typically this is 30-50% Tamiya X/XF paint and then either Acryllic Thinner (or if using the slightly chalky XF paints try Tamiya Laquer Thinner). What I found to work is to not brush them, but put down a drop (with your brush) and spread it around. Finish too wet or thin - decrease the % of thinners. I typically just eyeball the amount of thinners to put into the decanted paint in the airbrush to get it somewhere within these ratios. Not sure about X20A, but I assume it's probably similar. It can be used up to a 1:10 ratio with Tamiya Acrylic Paints. I'm looking into airbrushing and purchasing a kit soon. I stir it up with a toothpick and then paint at around 18psi. For instance, for a general basecoat I thin Tamiya paints (with laquer thinner) at about 30% thinner and 70% paint ratio typically shot through the airbrush at around 20psi. You also want to add some Tamiya Retarder. Test 3 – 50% Tamiya thinner. These days I eyeball it and mix it in the airbrush cup, largely because I’m impatient and Tamiya paints are amazingly forgiving. I would start by not thinning acrylic paints with enamel thinner. Press J to jump to the feed. Do you mean by milk that it is slightly thicker than water and if tilted will loosely stick to its container? Some things cannot be known- this is one of those. Also if anyones got any quick tips on how to clean the tip piece of an iwata neo id appreciate it. I'm probably not thinning my paint nearly enough. When I’m airbrushing decanted Tamiya TS paints I use a ratio of 3:1 or 4:1, paint to thinners mix. If you are painting 1/350 ships I would say just get more suitable paints for hand-brushing or a spray can. Don't use enamel thinner with acrylic paints, I can't imagine that will end well. So lets say that I use 30 drops of paint, I will add 15 drops of thinner, plus another 3 drops of thinner. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. I'm using an Iwata Revolution airbrush at 45 psi and hope I can get these paints to airbrush smoothly. (painting plastic ship model if thats somehow relevant). I thin the primer in a 20ml tamiya mixing jar up to the rip so about a 5mm or so gap and bit more detail I use the large tamiya eyedropper to the 4th mark and do this about 4 times full of thinner this idea from Andy hobby headquarters on YouTube on thinning tamiya paints and … Tamiya "yellow cap" lacquer thinner: Works great with X-22 and works, in my experience, pretty much just was well as Mr Color Leveling thinner. I will obviously have to practice and see what works best for me. Tamiya has long offered a wide range of acrylic paints and acrylic thinners. I'm going to be using Tamiya paint and thinner. Ratio for airbrushing tamiya paints Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 2, 2007 2:46 PM Alright so Im getting my airbrush workingh again and i will be airbrushing with tamiya paints. a basecoat of paint after preshading panel lines, I will thin 50:50 in order to give the paint a more translucent effect allowing me to build the layers of paint up a little at a time (shot at around 15-18psi). I usually thin at a ratio of 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, plus 10% thinner just to make sure. Computer, did we bring batteries?.....Computer? Vallejo). I would definitely recommend having a spare model for "target practice" and try different ratios of paint and thinner shooting them at different psi. I've kind of developed an eye based on the consistency of the paint on my stirring paddle. I then stir it with a toothpick to blend it all together. F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town! Also, for thinning tamiya acrylics you should use X20a (essentially alcohol) or water. 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